Food Deprivation Conclusion: Part D - The Discussions
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I use the term “conclusion” loosely. This is a recurring theme and I have no expectation that it won’t be brought up again at some point in the future. For this round, it is the conclusion because there is nothing more to say on the subject to the PEW. To catch up, start with Part A.
In the years prior to discovering low-contact methods, I played a significant role in the escalation of these discussions. In the years since, by employing the methods learned (and written about), I have restored an amazing level of sanity to our lives, if not hers. As always, I’d just as soon not engage in discussions with her about anything. When you have children, no-contact is not really possible. This will be one of those times where I will make an attempt to discuss the matter with her and set her straight on reality. Of course, I go into this knowing it is extremely likely a wasted effort.
There are two different discussions which take place. One is a phone discussion with the PEW. Two is a discussion about food, health, and fitness with the children, who are obviously aware at this point that PEW is making an issue out of things.
The discussion with PEW follows. In an effort to keep it brief and (hopefully) readable, we’ll go the bullet-point method.
My main points:
- I let her know up-front that the conversation needed to stay on-topic or I would hang-up the phone. Though a couple of tangential issues were offered, I was able to quickly redirect her back to the topic at-hand.
- I let her know that despite whatever the children may have been telling her, the accusations were false, unfounded, and I laid out for her what our typical meals consist of (previously documented in this series), acknowledging that she “only had my word that it was the truth” and that there was nothing more I could or would provide her on the issue.
- I let her know that it was my fervent desire that she file the petition. I wanted the opportunity to go before the judge and see her reaction when she “trotted out the ridiculous notion that the children weren’t getting enough to eat and have her simultaneously explain how it is even possible with one child slightly overweight and one child significantly overweight.”
- I told her that her instructing S1 to buy lunch whenever he felt like it while on my custodial time was “reprehensible” and that she should only ensure that there is enough money in the account to cover her custodial time, while also pointing out that most of the school lunches are garbage anyway.
Her main points:
- When the kids tell her that they aren’t getting enough to eat, should she not believe them? (My answer was: YES! As I don’t take everything that they tell me as completely accurate, she shouldn’t either. They are kids and will often attempt to manipulate us in an effort to get what they want when they want it.)
- I need to take some responsibility for the situation. (My answer to that was NO! I feed them normal meals. I don’t obsess about their weight. I don’t restrict their diets or snacks. And the responsibility for their poor eating habits… what they eat… how much they eat… when they eat… and their over-snacking is 100% her responsibility.)
- The kids get plenty of exercise when they are with her including going for walks and playing with friends, playdates, they swim at her parents during the summer, etc. (This is not entirely true in that the frequency with which she claims they get “plenty of exercise” is overstated according to the kids. They spend a big chunk of their time watching TV and playing videogames at home. When they go on playdates and play with neighbors, they often are… watching TV and playing videogames. I did not say this to her - this is just for the readers’ info.)
- There are “plenty of successful fat people in the world who have great jobs, gorgeous wives, families, money, etc. (I told her that this reality matters not to me. I told her that barring a contributing medical condition that has been ruled out in both of our boys, that being overweight was not necessary to achieve those results and very likely will cause potential future health problems. She only needs to look within her own family to see that.)
- She reiterated her contention that in the summer of 2007, I “starved” the 17-pounds off of S1. (I reiterated to her was patently untrue and previously explained that his participation in swim team, summer camp, and normal daily play activities were completely responsible for his weight loss. I added his sense of pride and his noticing how much better he felt by summer’s end.)
The discussion was, at times, animated as she would toss in her ridiculous accusations. I did call her an “asshole” once and a “big fat liar” for doing so. Childish, yes. This was certainly wrong, if still true, and is the risk one takes when choosing to break low-contact. Worthy of note: She continued to offer up her opinions on a variety of issues surrounding the central one without ever offering a shred of suggestion as to what should be done differently… only that they should be done differently. All the time she does this.
The conversation was over after we each said our peace. (more…)


