Alec Baldwin Discusses Family & Divorce Court on 20/20
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“Corrupt, Inefficient, Lazy, and Stupid” is how Alec Baldwin describes the lawyers, judges, and others who are part of the Divorce and Custody Industry. Yes, it’s an industry which generates billions of dollars of revenue and income for the states and all of the players within the system.
And so opened the story featured on ABC’s program 20/20 on September 19th, 2008.
Alec Baldwin is stepping up to the plate and is making a concerted effort to do something about what he calls the “delays and manipulations” that serve to destroy and divide divorcing families more than the circumstances at hand often do. I believe that this is something that we all want to see happen in our lifetimes. Baldwin’s struggles were apparently so bad that he had even contemplated suicide. When one stops to consider that more the 25,000 men in this country commit suicide each year, you have to wonder how many of those men were in the midst of a bitter divorce and custody battle that saw them marginalized as a parent, stripped of their right to be a parent, and relegated to little more than a wallet, from which states strive daily to extract the maximum amount of money “in the best interests of the children.” Men commit suicide at a rate that is 4-times greater than women.
Throughout his lengthy struggles in family court and the years he lost with his daughter, Ireland, he struggled with depression and despair. These types of feelings and experiences are repeated tens-of-thousands of times over in this country and abroad.
Diane Sawyer, even at the very outset of the interview, sought to label Baldwin’s rather low opinion of the divorce & family court system as a “scorched earth” attitude. Baldwin wisely countered that such an attitude defines one who actively seeks the negative in a particular situation. This is not what he did, but in reality, the situation was “thrust” into his face. It is his experience that brought him to these realizations. Again, this is a point with which I agree. My own attitudes, for reasons even unknown to me, led me to believe that things had changed in divorce & family court for the better for fathers since my own parents split up. I would soon learn that nothing could be further from the truth.
He describes his feelings for the love of his love, daughter Ireland - “When I’m with her, I am happy.” Aren’t we all when in the company of our children who we love unconditionally? His marriage to Kim Basinger began to fall apart when Ireland was 5-years old.
When asked about the warning signs that signaled the end of his marriage was near, he refused to divulge details, laughing at one point when telling Sawyer that Basinger would probably be a lot more “chatty” about warning signals about him manifested themselves to her. Then, Baldwin made a statement that I suspect will ring true throughout the overwhelming majority of divorced men in high-conflict situations.
“The harshest thing I could say is I was married to someone for whom all dissent was abuse. If you had your own opinion, you were abusive.”
This describes my psycho ex-wife in a nutshell. It encapsulates her attitude about everything and like many other words that serve as lightning-rods for those with an agenda, the definition of what is “abuse” has been so bastardized today as to make it’s true definition completely meaningless. If you are divorcing someone who takes this attitude - you’re in for a long and difficult divorce and custody process that will be rife with accusations that you probably think are unimaginable to be attributed to you.
While asserting that he and Basinger did not argue all the time and, when they did, it was his belief that nothing he ever argued about was over something that was insignificant, he maintains that nothing occurred in the marriage that was deserving of anything that took place in its aftermath. The dreaded high-profile custody battle lasting 8-years… 365 documents… 91 court proceedings… 8 lawyers… 4 judges… 3-million dollars.
It started, as many do, with the mother removing the child from the marital home and moving some long distance away, in this case, from Los Angeles to New York, with Basinger citing Ireland’s “health” as the reason. Once a “court sponsored mediator” began to analyze a custody arrangement, Alec Baldwin didn’t see Ireland for 2-years (except for very infrequent arrangements during the process) and, Baldwin asserts, he had done absolutely nothing wrong. He did what he could to remain in her life, volunteering at school and being local to her as often as possible. This type of story is played out every day an untold number of times by people with far less financial resources than Alec Baldwin. So, we can see where thousands of fathers fail where Baldwin, thus far, has been able to succeed, assuming you can call his mess a “success” at this point. Of course, the more involved he tried to be, the more Basinger, he alleges, began to turn Ireland against him and he spoke of parental alienation syndrome.
His forthcoming book, A Promise to Ourselves: A Journey Through Fatherhood and Divorce chronicles his experiences and provides details of the horrifying and sad stories of the impact of parental alienation on his daughter and himself. “Mommy says you’re sick” is an exact phrase I’ve heard come from my own children and unlike Baldwin who told Sawyer that he said absolutely nothing to Ireland when she told him this, I would simply tell my children that what mom said simply wasn’t true and that I was sorry that they had to hear that.
Unsurprisingly, Baldwin was ordered into “anger management” classes, like so many fathers are on the simple accusations of the mother, and he followed the order to attend. And while being a public figure, Baldwin’s occasional outburst become tabloid fodder, for many low-profile fathers, that’s not necessarily the case and yet - they’ll be ordered into them just the same. The problem that arises with this situation is that once ordered into one, there is a perception that you have anger problems or are an abuser and that impacts the attitudes of those charged with making the life-affecting decisions regarding your parenthood. The typical anger-management class is predicated on the shameful “Duluth Model” which is a feminist-driven agenda item that blames all of the evils of society on men. (Perhaps a post for another day.)
Just as the court sponsored mediator was preparing to award joint-custody after these first two years of limited contact, the Basinger attorneys exercised their right to FIRE the mediator. They did this the day before she was to make her recommendation. The problem with this? It sets them back to the very beginning. The classic delay tactic of a vindictive, malicious mother. Off to court they go! When describing his feelings about the court experience Baldwin said:
“The lawyers are there to make money. It’s an industry. It’s a racket. Judges are like pit bosses in Vegas casinos. Their job is to make sure every one stays at the table and keeps gambling.”
Folks, there exists no better description of the family court system at-large.
8-months later, the judge awards joint custody in his case. He would fly across the country every other weekend to spend his “court authorized time” with his daughter. He even went so far as to have phone calls scheduled right into the order. The incessant interference with these calls is what would lead to the now famous voice mail that Baldwin left to his daughter in a moment of frustration. Alec Baldwin even rented a home 9-doors away from Ireland. However, Basinger was allegedly already driving a wedge between he and his daughter.
A montage of father videos is shown with them speaking of the alienation from their children and Baldwin discusses this more in-depth. He calls the situation a “national crisis” and that fathers all over the country are paying a steep price, along with the children. His belief and the belief of many others, is that parental alienation is a form of child abuse. It is largely a woman-on-man “crime” and it’s furthered by the gender bias that exists in America’s family courts.
When normal male behavior is being characterized as abuse, even the slightest action demonstrated during a normal emotion can cost you custody of your children. He uses an example of having an argument with your wife and smashing your cellphone down in the driveway now being characterized as “abuse.” (There are actually worse examples of that and nowadays, just saying something that hurts your spouse’s feelings can be characterized as abuse.) On the flip side, Baldwin again validates the beliefs of most men who are involved in a custody dispute or close to some father involved in one, when he says:
“You gotta catch the mother, as I said in the book, with a crack pipe in one hand, in bed with her pimp, and the child chained to a radiator before they do anything.”
Much to my dismay, Joan Myer, professor of law at George Washington University claims, “Family courts are bending over backwards to bring fathers into their children’s lives.” Of course, she doesn’t substantiate that in the limited time given with any objective evidence of such. Further, my research, my experience, and the experiences of those with whom I interact on a daily basis and via this blog lead me to believe that nothing could be further from the truth. Further, she goes on to outright dismiss parental alienation syndrome and, much like the radical feminist that I imagine she is (and I will look into it) she further propagates the myth that parental alienation is claimed by people who are using it to “defeat abuse claims.” Sawyer cites the National Organization of Women’s cloak of defense with their (accurate, if misleading) claim that PAS is not a “recognized syndrome” and it’s not “legally child abuse” in terms of it being a chargeable offense. You’ll notice how neither denies that poisoning a child’s mind against the other parent is possible and easily achievable, especially when the target parent has been forced to the fringes or out of their children’s lives.
I concur with Baldwin’s statements and I’m certain that many fathers would echo the sentiment that fathers who wish to be fully involved in their children’s lives “loathe and despise” fathers who physically or sexually abuse their children… who have the means but willfully fail to pay reasonable support… who abandon women whom they’ve impregnated. However:
“It doesn’t change the fact that there are women who get divorced and in order to punish, out of this bitter, bitter hatred that some of these women have for their ex-husbands - they turn their children against them. Everybody knows that’s real.”
Still, the interference with Baldwin’s custodial time with Ireland was granted with the full support of the court, on the 2nd-hand claim that Ireland said that she “felt unsafe” around Alec. Another investigation, another extended period of no time with his daughter, charges dismissed, custodial time restored. I’ve experienced these same types of claims repeatedly from my own psycho ex-wife. The children don’t like spending time with me. They are afraid of me. They don’t want to come to be with me. They hate it with me. It’s indescribably disgusting.
When speaking about the phone rant towards his daughter, he described the experiences and frustrations of the reality that less than 25% of his phone calls were getting through or returned or otherwise being facilitated by the other side. It is a moment he regrets. Still, in the face of hard questioning by Sawyer, he stood by his claim that there was an expectation of privacy and, that the bigger picture is that the voice mail was released to the tabloid website TMZ. While Kim Basinger denies being the source of the leaked tape, one can probably safely assume that Ireland wasn’t the one who sent it to TMZ and the larger tragedy is as regretful as his voice mail may have been, what kind of person/mother furthers the embarrassment suffered by her daughter by releasing it to TMZ to be broadcast all over the world?
I gotta say, I have to agree with him here. Why? Not that he was justified with his angry words towards his daughter. It’s because I am of the firm belief that there isn’t a mother or father alive (or dead, for that matter) who hasn’t said something inappropriate, unnecessary, or downright wrong to their children during the course of their lives. Let that person or persons (if they exist) be the ones to sit in righteous judgment of Baldwin’s message to Ireland on that fateful day.
A quote from Basinger along with her denial of releasing the tape to TMZ went something like this… and tell me if you haven’t seen these words in any number of emails I’ve posted from the PEW:
Her sincerest wish “is for him to finally address his unstable and irrational behavior so at some point he can potentially create a relationship with his daughter.”
It’s as if all of these women are operating from the same playbook with the same glossary of terms to use in court, in public, and in this case - on television. I’m certain Alec would read this blog as so many others have and write the same thing to me… “My story is almost exactly the same as yours. In some cases, it’s literally verbatim!” I’m sure when I read his book, I will say the same damned thing.
Alec Baldwin is launching a crusade to change the way the divorce process operates. As an example, he will push to see that if there is no evidence that the father has been abusive to the school-aged kids, he gets equal custody of the child right away. He would also like to see co-parenting coaching in an effort to prevent the types of alienation of children that he’s purported to have experienced with Ireland at the hands of Basinger.
One of his closing quotes during the segment is one that I repeat in some way, shape, or form at least 2- to 3-times per month:
“Everything with my daughter now is fine. Everything with my daughter is great, so long as the mother stays… out… of… the way.”
It’s my feeling exactly. Despite knowing the answer, and that is, I believe my PEW is truly ill, I often ask myself why she does and says the things she does. Why does she treat me the way she does, despite now having her divorce and distance between us? Why does she persist in the chaos and terror when all I want is the minimum contact necessary on matters of importance and relevant to the children? Why does she persist when I couldn’t care less what she does or is doing with her life provided it doesn’t negatively impact the children?
The bottom line is that if the psycho ex’s of the world would simply carry on with their lives and share custody of the children and limit contact to only what is absolutely necessary - life would be so much better for everyone, including them!
September 20th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
My heart breaks for the Alec Baldwins of this world, but my heart breaks even more for the children.
My latest reading - Joseph E. Cordell’s (2007) “Your Civil War: A Father’s Guide to Winning Child Custody” was enlightening. Cordell is a litigator, and part of the “divorce industry”, so he and I do part company on some philosophical issues.
However, we agree that the current system is destroying children by destroying their relationships with their fathers.
Two interesting points: first, Cordell asserts that 95% of all divorces are completely unnecessary. They are born of either a man’s selfish desire to “trade up” in the looks/presentation department (better-appearing wife), or a woman’s selfish desire to “trade up” in the finances department (better-earning husband). Although founded solely upon the thousands of divorce cases he has handled as an attorney, I find his observation interesting.
The other observation is sobering: alienated children lose *both* parents. Both. Our society and the divorce industry have created literally MILLIONS of psychological ORPHANS. If that sentence doesn’t make you cry the first time you read it, then go back and read it again.
September 20th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Well, we all need to strap on our helmets for a new influx of divorces, broken families, unreasonable child support orders, custodial interferences… because when the economy goes into the toilet like it has… the incidences of divorces often go up.
The “raping and pillaging” of the family unit by this horrible divorce and family court system will continue, unabated.
September 20th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I was disturbed to read such a one-sided defense of Alec Baldwin. He has a well-documented temper that was often sparked by matters completely seperate from his daughter.
Did you ever think that perhaps Kim Basinger interferred with custody to protect her from this temper? “Straighten you out” may have meant “beat you up”. She may have been terrfied to leave her child alone with someone who had threatened to beat her up. Before you say “She could have gone to the courts”, the courts can be just as insensitive to women’s concerns as well. After all - women are “hysterical”. I have heard of many cases where women have taken legitimate complaints about child abuse to the courts only to have them ignored.
Why have you fallen into the anti-feminist trap? This is simplistic, knee-jerk, thinking. True analysis of feminism would reveal that is not anti-men. Feminism emerged as a response to years of abuse and oppression of women, children - and men.
You have certainly suffered horribly, your children and wife have suffered as well. However, do not blame ‘feminism’.
September 20th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
“He has a well-documented temper that was often sparked by matters completely seperate from his daughter.”
If his anger is completely separate from his daughter, then why does it mean he’s not a good father and shouldn’t be around her? The problem with divorce is that there is a LOT of anger, often from both sides, and when you have one or more parents unable to see that the anger is at the spouse and has nothing to do with the child, that’s when problems start. Kim likely has issues with Alec, no doubt about it, I imagine Alec has issues with Kim as well, Kim is the only one dragging these issues into court in order to keep Alec from his child. Alec doesn’t denigrate Kim in public, release private family matters, etc, Kim does, because she wants to hurt Alec, no matter what it does to her own child.
When she released that voicemail, not for one second did she stop and think about what it would do to her daughter, not one second. Would I have sent it to my attorney? YES! But to release it in public had only one benefit, and that benefit was to KIM, no one else. She wasn’t worried about protecting her daughter, she wanted to hurt Alec, as much as possible.
September 20th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
“Well documented anger issues”??? Well documented by who? Tabloid websites who fan the flames of juicy-gossip about celebrities?
Danelover, I’ll bet everything I own that you can’t cite a dozen “anger blowouts” that have been “well documented” in his entire life.
I’ll bet there isn’t a reader on this website (or many others), if they had paparazzi following them around with cameras and microphones - and had their lives broadcast on innumerable tabloid websites… who wouldn’t have had captured several “meltdowns.” Then, when they are so highly publicized, you would be labeled as having “well-documented anger issues.” What a joke.
Perhaps if you took with a grain of salt the stuff tabloids spoon-feed you and realize that angry outbursts happen occasionally in life, you would realize just how farcical the allegation of his “well-documented anger issues” really is.
Other than one time when a photographer was harassing him, his wife, and newborn daughter - he has never otherwise been arrested on anger issues to my knowledge. He has never been convicted on anger issues. He has no domestic violence arrests.
So, for all you know, he no more or less angry or has any more angry outbursts than either you or I have had in our lifetimes… and that is precisely what he said last night. His just happen to be in the publicity spotlight.
As I said in the original post - let the parent(s) who have never said anything wrong, inappropriate, or regretful to their children in all of their lives be the first to judge Alec Baldwin’s angry outburst at his daughter.
Reality… catch it!
September 20th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
And if I may address the “why have you fallen into the anti-feminist trap” comment - when radical feminists, organizations like N.O.W., and the woman who was on last night stop parroting unsupportable myths about parental alienation and what the courts are allegedly doing to “bend over backwards to help fathers be more involved in their children’s lives” - I’ll consider dropping my choice to address those issues when I have the time and inclination.
In the meantime, those individuals and organizations whose mission appears to be to destroy men, fathers, and families will continue to garner my attention and hopefully the attention of many others who seek to see these things changed in the true “best interests of the children.”
September 21st, 2008 at 5:48 am
I honestly don’t remember the courts bending over backwards to make sure I was a part of my children’s lives. They were all to happy to sign me up for the standard visitation rights but label it under the new name of “Joint Managing Conservatorship”. Joint Managing Conservator? How is getting your children for less than a quarter of the year joint managing? What was the comment Barrack Obama caught grief for, wasn’t it “You can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig.”
I love how the feminist want every one to believe that fathers are being represented equally in family court. They don’t want America to know whats going on in the courts because the deck is stacked in their favor. They dont want anyone to know about parent alienation syndrome because it might start to change the minds of the courts and the Status Quo.
Am I the only one who read the open hostility in Diane Sawyer’s eyes and face as she interviewed Alec. I would bet my lifetime’s salary that Dianne has made a comment to her child that would be considered just as harsh as Alec calling his daughter a pig. I love the glass palace that Dianne portrays she lives in by reacting as she did to the comment he made about his daughter.
The problem with the tabloids like The Enquirer, US weekly, Okay magazine, People, Entertainment tonight, and Access Hollywood are that they all are Papparazzi driven in which there are so many reports of abuse on the part of the photographers and camera men inciting altercations to create news. The second biggest problem is the amount of time devoted by women to this type of news media. I would bet that danelover has read one of these magazines or watched one of these t.v. shows in the last week.
September 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
I am a true-blue-dyed-in-the-wool feminist. I have been on the receiving end of work-related and life-related sexism many times as I have stood for the cause of equality for *all*. I still wholeheartedly believe in equality for ALL.
I feel that my cause has been co-opted by a shrill group of whiners who would rather paint women as helpless victims who are incapable of caring for themselves… instead of giving us the true power of accountability and competence. It makes me mad. I feel that women everywhere have been sold out by N.O.W. and other organizations that would rather fight for us to be handed something by some government entity, instead of fight for us to have internal strength.
If you step back from the surface level bickering of sexist politics and see the big picture, you will see an entire generation of children being systematically destroyed. Whether it takes a family or a village to raise a child, both families and villages are currently totally MIA.
Now what??
September 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Now what? A divorce & family court revolution.
Don't ask me how we get there, I haven't figured that out yet. Organization, mobilization, and repetitive exposure of the frauds perpetuated by the "shrill minority" you speak of, JB… (by the way, for the most part - I agree that "equality for all" feminism has been hijacked by those who overtly seek preferential treatment for one… on the backs of men… and at the expense of children and the family unit.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 am
The damage caused by the insidious parental alienation crap has really obliterated my family bonds of love.Now as the father I try and repair the pain caused by parental alienation and systematic brainwashing.The Family Court is a wrenching sick nightmare and what for? The children suffer once the lawyers have been paid, meanwhile the father is caught in a jungle of bias unlawful gender discrimination. No wonder dads have to help daughters to try and find their way through the jungle of family estrangement and adolescent rebellion.
I hate parents who use children as weapons of war. F##k the lying lawyers.
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:27 am
You mention men’s suicide rates, my understanding is that the divorce industry does indeed make a major contribution to these rates. The divorce system is unique in that it is the only way a person can lose literally everything, not only everything they own, future income and pensions, and even their own flesh and blood. And this total loss is actually common.
Unfortunately I missed this show and am glad he brought up the se important issues, but severely disappointed that he be attacked rather than allow him to express his views.
The terrible problems with the system is that it only takes one to make the situation ugly and the system seems to encourage the wife to take this stance.
It is also ironic that the word “abuse” can be construed to mean anything on the one hand, but when I accused my judge, lawyers, and my son’s guardian of “abuse” for allowing my visitation to be lowered over a journaling mistake being misused to gain leverage in the case, I was ejected from chambers.
I did so much better, 8 cases of documentation, 45 appearances, 3 years pre-decree, 1 year and counting post-decree, 4 lawyers, 1 judge, several magistrates, and $100,000. Only problem is that was nearly all my financial resources.
An interesting point mentioned in the released excerpt is that the book includes the experiences of three other father’s in addition to his own.
And just how are father’s supposed to react when being stripped of everything? Joyful? Calm, cool, collected? How does NOW react to PAS? I think if the tables were turned, we’d see their anger.
I don’t think we have any problems with lawyers earning a living, the problem comes when they pad their bills, milk a case, play off people’s emotional weakness, lie, and screwup. These are morally questionable, even if apparently not illegal. The pit boss view matches my observations, but is far from managing the lawyers and cases that should be expected of judges.
As for that unfortunate voice mail, the damage to his daughter was multiplied as this became known by everyone.
The playbook is how this lopsided system operates. Your ex may be psycho, but its the system that allows her to do what she does. One can understand a psycho spouse, but not a corrupt system that acts as an enabler for her to abuse you and your children after divorce.
Personally I think the system view is backwards. Rather than determine which parent “wins” custody and then designate a loser “NCP”, the system should take the view from the child’s perspective and that would be that the child has equal and easy access to both parents.
Your bottom line is so true, but not obtainable until the system changes their bias.
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 am
I find jb’s observation interesting on the cause for divorces. I’d add a third potential cause - disposablility. Divorce is presented as the easy way to solve relationship difficulties and it is anything but easy in its current implementation. Our future generations would benefit by more couples working to resolve their marriage troubles then dissolving them.
Your other observation is also important, the alienated parent is loss is obvious, but the alienating parent will also be lost as the child resents their actions. But selfish radical feminists haven’t understood that point.
Mister-m what better time (sarcasm here) to destroy the family finances then during an economic downturn? Too bad legal firms aren’t publicly traded, we could all have a recession hedge.
danelover, where is this balanced feminism you speak of? Feminism may have started out with good reason, but it has morphed into a radical men hating movement as in N.O.W. . As a non-woman hater, I’ll concede your point that the court screws over women too.
wc you make some great points. The court does not understand directed anger. I had anger toward the court’s misbehavior. This was discussed in a separate custody hearing as I was labeled a “poor litigant”, to which I replied “What the hell does my dim view of the court have to do with my ability to parent the child I love?”
Thankfully Alec had the good sense not to denigrate Kim as that would have blown his arguments. And this is bypassing quite an incentive that a “tell all” book would have brought him.
Great point on releasing the voice mail. It was selfish of Kim, and I wonder to what extent Ireland or worse yet her friends saw this released publicly.
kal-el, yes a pig by any other name is still a pig.
Wow, jb is a moderate feminist, but I fear either she is in the minority or drowned out by the radical feminists.
dad4justice its not just the alienating parent, but the lawyers, court officers, and ultimately the judge that allows it.
October 25th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
I understand that sometimes there could be cases of abusive man ( there are ) , and idiots that have caused all man to be suspect (OJ)…but that is not a reason to all men be guilty without even show up at Court…my case is that ex made FALSE acussations of sexual molestation to my son to break relationship she has always been jealouss of , and NO one , being the Texas CPS, the DRO and even the Police department have shown the will to find out why the kid made those outcries , always in prescense of mother…they all say…closed case , but the fact is that my relationship with son has been broken…fortunetally it is so strong that has resisted this attack for 16 months…but how long will it take to really be damaged?…I am appealing ( like Baldwin said I am kept at the gambling table) , because I have no other option but to do it or accept an “unofficial” acceptance of guiltiness!!…which I will never on something I never did even in my mind!!….America needs strong men , and though times are ahead and there will be no physco ex wife that will do the job!!…..we gotta take this issue to Congress as they are doing in Chile…thye are really taking steps to combat phsycos ex´s wives.
November 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Most women are conniving, evil people. NOW and all the feminist groups are anti-male, period. I have a lot of hatred for certain people, but I can get anyone to believe that I am a nice guy. Anyone who aspires to a radical group or moniker like NOW or “feminism” have their own agenda, which is the subversion of another group. Look at affirmative action. It is simply reverse discrimination against white men, period. And for any group like NOW to get a truly intelligent person like me (notice I didn’t say “myself”) to believe their agenda is peaceful, conctructive, and worthy of conversation, would take womens’ truly asking for responsibility in all facets of this life. For example…when was the last time a woman insisted on being on a garbage truck detail? Or insisted on fighting in wars? This is all about their being able to grab more money themselves. Look at Wimbledon…the women play fewer sets of tennis for a lot less time, but were recently awarded equal pay, even though they don’t bring in the ratings that men do. And why is it that women and NOW don’t say anything about women who falsely accuse men of sexually abusing them? These women go free, like there’s been no harm done. I am not brainwashed by the left womens’ movements, nor will I ever be. If all this banter about how women are fair, just, and want positive things for their children wasn’t so sad, it truly would be amusing. I don’t have children and waited until I was 46 to get married…and I think I feel for men more who have to put up with the courts and divorce settlements than men do. I know a guy who caught his wife in bed with another man…he asked for divorce…she got the cars, house, kids, alimony and child support. This happens more than not. So, any pontificating from the women about how men are abusive and out of control is just chatter. But ladies, keep up the good work, cuz we guys are learning from your playbook. There will be a change in the system. We need to shatter liberal thinking and replace it with pragmatism. Trouble is, most women don’t know what a pragmatist is.
November 12th, 2008 at 2:34 am
WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq - all have taken away fathers from their beloved children. But now the war is on American soil with the courts in the hands of the secret societies and it is they who now war on the American family and attempt to “kill” the father by obstructing the normal relationship with his own chidren who he is commanded by God to protect. And if you believe that this is simply gender bias or courts caught up in maternity propaganda — you are an idiot. This is all planned just like the demise of the economy was planned. Wake up!
December 17th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
None of this suprises me at all. First of all, I am a woman. I am a woman who has seen first hand everything described here. I am in the Twin Cities area and it is by far the very worst place in the country for men when it comes to family court.
I pretty much gave up my career/business so I could devote full time to being a Professional Power of Attorney for these dads here. They NEED someone to look after their best interests. They need someone who wants to annihilate and not negotiate. You can not negotiate with terrorists!
I tell them from the get go, this is the fight of your life… if you don’t win now, you may not see your kids for YEARS, and by then, another man will be raising them!
What is really sad is that IT IS THE COURT and CHILD SUPPORT OFFICERS who are responsible for most of this. It is they who tell the woman what she is “entitled to” and give her the idea that the more time you have with your kids, the more money you can get out of the dad. But, having said that, NONE of this is about the money, it is about CONTROL and POWER.
It saddens me that I make a living this way, but before you start bashing me on my choice of making a living, I should say that I only charge a VERY small monthly fee for my services and I am not a lawyer. I have never once lost a case - ever. I have got this whole thing down to a science and I am good at what I do.
Guys, these are your children, your flesh and blood, your namesakes… FIGHT LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT.
December 17th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
ps i was just watching alec baldwin on cnn tonite. id marry him in a new york second
hahaha